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  How do you leave?

  by helenhall in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  when every single person you know is a witness, how do you leave?

  has anybody here left, and had nobody on the outside.

  because that's where i would be.

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  chicken little

  Hello Helen,

  I really could feel empathy with you when I read how you feel at the moment. I stopped attending meetings nearly one year ago after attending from the age of 3...44 years in all. I have had the same feelings of guilt and not knowing where I am with myself. In the last year I have met some wonderful people. I just be myself I dont have to preach to them or expect anything from them other than that we can be friends. I have got involved with a couple of local charities and have seen things that leave me astonished. I have made friends with an elderly woman who uses all her money and time on helping very poor people in rumania. I can honestly say that my husband and I and our children have never been happier than we are now.

  Still it has taken a year of turmoil emotionally to come this far. Dont give up, dont go back, dont regret either. I am what I am because of the time as a jw, so I accept that. But now I am moving on and boy am I happy I am.

  Read a lot...go to womens clubs...invite a neighbour over for coffee. If you are disappointed in someone, try again. Join a fitness club, meet friends on the net.

  Watch the movie then ask your friend if she wants to go away for a weekend...do it! You will have great fun and you will open up to each other.

  I wish you all the best and much joy in your life

  Chicken Little
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  What do you think of todays youth?

  by dawg in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as many of you know, i live in a college town and therefore i'm around people much younger than me almost all day.

  here's one thing i've noticed, the youth today have left the god of the bible behind.

  they have been brought up in a world where information is available at a very rapid rate and have already figured out the biblical god is a fairy tale.

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  chicken little

  Why does believing in God have to be the touchstone of whether youths are good, moral or whatever else you want to call them.. My daughter left jws at the age of 18 and told me she saw more immorality concealed behind "goody twoshoes" witness facade among her peers in the cong. than she saw among her worldly collage students. I was still a jw at the time and tried to defend our standpoint...believing in God makes you a better person etc. I do not believe that anymore...people are good. Some are unfortunate to have a bad deal in life...others are wired wrongly upstairs...some are mean and awful...I teach my kids to be the best they can. I admire young people for living in a world that we messed up...we as in collective. Where there is life there is hope...give them some space.
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  JW spanking their kids

  by asilentone in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what do you think about jw spanking their kids at the kingdom hall?

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  chicken little

  When our children were small it was the custom to smack the child if naughty at the kh. I am ashamed to think back that I accepted this practise with our own children. Mostly the pressure is from what others think of you. An elders wife who doesnt have perfect kids that sit still and pay attention is just not on. The rights of the child dont come into it...after all we are told that we are slaves of God and Christ so we have no rights. I hated myself for the way that I was at the kh...I felt like the evil mother when I came home.

  I stopped the practise and decided that I would never ever use smacking again...that was 12 years ago and since then we have had another child and he was no problem at the meetings, I just stopped caring what others thought. I was brought up with physical violence, (not smacking) and I always had to control myself because the pattern can repeat. I am grateful that I broke free from this dreadful behaviour and would always speak up if I saw it now. I dont go to anymore meetings or impose anymore society discipline on my little boy.

  To those who are still in...if you have children and they are finding it hard at the meetings ...just go for a walk with them, eat and apple out the back or give them plenty of time in the toilets to calm down or unload. When we were on our way out I used the bathrooms constantly....I would sit out there for ages....and I am not a child!haha
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  Anybody remember this case?

  by chicken little in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  does anybody remember the case from italy, it involved a married couple who were new to the jw org and had a child that needed a transfusion.

  they refused, the child died and they were both sent to prison for long terms of imprisonment.

  we were often told of their great faith even so new in "the truth".

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  chicken little

  Does anybody remember the case from Italy, it involved a married couple who were new to the Jw org and had a child that needed a transfusion. They refused, the child died and they were both sent to prison for long terms of imprisonment. We were often told of their great faith even so new in "the truth". I have wondered what happened to them and if they stayed witnesses...anybody remember this...it was late 80s I think.

  Regards chicken little
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  Urgency Enigma....

  by hotspur in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how come an organization that is busting all out to get people through armageddon urgently is not teaching anything about survival?

  any storm predicted (weather forecast) sees people scurrying around to protect themselves.

  all that seems to happen in jw land is preparation for more printing.

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  chicken little

  Good question....the usual cop out is it will all be taken care of by Jehovah. But humans (survivors), are the body desposers so what about the obvious after effects that have to be dealt with. Just read an account about what would happen to the earth if all people disappeared. Within 2 days all sewage systems would overflow. Within 7 days the atomic reactors would explode and release their deadly contents as there would be no one to operate the cooling towers..So I wonder how many experts in those areas the Wt society has...no time to train them. As usual the difficult questions are never anwsered...we should not speculate...all is under control....Yep.

  Regards

  Chicken little
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  High incidence of demonic activity.

  by chicken little in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  anyone wondered about the large numbers of jewish people in the 1st centuary that were under demon control?

  the jews were very much warned to keep clear of demons and any occult practises.

  i find it odd then that there are so many people coming to jesus with this problem.

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  chicken little

  Anyone wondered about the large numbers of jewish people in the 1st centuary that were under demon control? The jews were very much warned to keep clear of demons and any occult practises. I find it odd then that there are so many people coming to Jesus with this problem. Why would that be? Ideas?
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  The Canadian Medical Card

  by jgnat in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  these are the instructions and a sample card.

  it seems it's more comprehensive than last year.. for those who are interested in downloading a copy, it is hosted here for a short time.

  http://www.sendspace.com/file/09yy5x.

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  chicken little

  Oh you poor thing.....cant you go on service with him as an observer (we used to allow that years ago, mind you it went wrong once or twice.) That way you could moderate him a bit.

  In London we had a friend that took a really rough diamond with him to observe the ministry. When a householder became abusive our observer said to the brother...Oi, step aside bruver, i`ll deal wif this, and proceeded to tell the householder what he would do to him if he didnt act nice. Hilarious. You could be his minder!
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  New 2008 Rules for A$$emblies?

  by WTWizard in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we know that the a$$emblies have become more programmed every year.

  they did away with food service.

  they cut off the great outdoors.

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  chicken little

  Our convention one year had sisters standing in the womens (not guys, so dont get excited) toilets handing out 2 squares of toilet paper to go into the toilet with for sisters. I was so angry I went looking for the MEN in charge to complain and demand that the brothers got the same treatment. We sisters use too much and block the toilets I was told and it is expensive. The God of the universe and his org cannot afford the loo roll!
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  C T Russells Divorce

  by chicken little in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  can anyone give me a thread on the courtcase that dealt with russells divorce?

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  chicken little

  Chasson Thanks a million, it was just what I was looking for. The woman deserves a medal. It shows up the true meaness of spirit of her husband. Great read.
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  C T Russells Divorce

  by chicken little in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  can anyone give me a thread on the courtcase that dealt with russells divorce?

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  chicken little

  Does anyone know if marie russell wrote anything after she seperated from Russell? She sounds an interesting character. The pastor-russell.com site is very defensive of C.T. and demeaning of his wife.